On Oct 9, 2005, at 1:26 AM, Patrick K. O'Brien wrote:

> I have done extensive research on object databases and, unfortunately,
> much that is written merely reflects what current database products are
> capable of doing.  I personally don't think they do enough.  So I wrote
> Schevo.

Jumping in late here... thanks for the passionate discussion. I find it
extremely
interesting. But, in particular it is very stimulating to see people
like Patrick
defending so strongly what he believes in... with so many packages out
there
that claim to make your life easier (they kind of do, if you accept
that they just take
it away... with the multitude of assumptions and constraints they
inflict), it is
great to see developments that follow their uncompromised vision...

I would actually like to second what Patrick said... "you all have my
deepest appreciation
for having made Durus available and for doing such a great job
maintaining it.".
Certainly! Durus manages to hit such a nice balance of simplicity and
functionality!
It is a pleasure to work with.

That said, I feel such a wonderful piece of software goes about
relatively unnoticed,
It seems very few people in the python world know about it... and some
of those that
do only dismiss it as a baby zodb. At least that's the impression I had
while presenting
moellus at europython earlier this year.

Schevo will for sure help attract a lot of attention for Durus... which
is a great. Maybe
moellus will also in some tiny way. I am anyway convinced that the user
base will
grow steadily...

But, my little question to Neil and David is, why the secrecy (almost)
about Durus ;-?
Why weren't 2.0 and 3.0 announced on the python announcement list?

I think that was a little off-topic.

mario