Hi, I've a class which subclasses PersistentList and which has a mixin: class Confused(PersistentList,MyMixin): def __init__(self,*args,**kwds): #init stuff super(Confused,self).__init__(*args,**kwds) Previously, it subclassed PersistentObject and all worked fine. When I changed it to subclass PersistentList I found that that MyMixin was not initialising. This seems to be because PersistentList defines an __init__ method which doesn't call super() whereas PersistentObject doesn't define an __init__ method at all. This seems to be fixed by the addition of: super(PersistentList,self).__init__(*args,**kwargs) on line 18 in PersistentList. Presumably the same issue would occur with PersistentDict. Is this behaviour by design, or would it be a good idea to add these super() inits calls to the Persistent classes so they play well with subclasses? Thanks very much, by the way, for developing and maintaining durus. It's a pleasure to work. Regards Patrick