Further to Xianling's comments, If you want to eliminate the effect of surface roughness (say you have a range of substrates with different, unknown surface qualities) you could immerse them in concentrated HF for a few minutes. Depending on your etch time, all substrates would then have similar surface conditions. Michael > >Another thing from my experience. The adhesion between SU-8 and glass >substrate seems fairly much depending on the surface conditions >(maybe roughness) of the substrate. There are a couple of times I ran >borofloat wafers using exactly the same process (pirahna cleaning, >dehydtration, spinning, soft bake, exposure and PEB) but SU-8 patterns >show up nicely on some wafers without any peel off after development >for a few mins, while nothing is left on other wafers with the same >develop time. Because the wafers used are mixed from different vendors, I >could not trace down the difference between their surface quality. >However, besides surface conditions, I could not think of any other >factors contributing to this huge difference in adhesion. So, try some >other glass substrates if nothing else helps. > >Xianling Chen > _________________________________________________________________ It's fast, it's easy and it's free. Get MSN Messenger today! http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger