Alain, the ti sticks because even in a vacuum it picks up whatever Oxygen and water vapor around oxidizes to a ceramic and bonds voila, for the same reason the metals dont want to stick to it. It might help, although I am not at all sure, if you deposited TiN reactively, and then tried to stick your metals to that. TiN when deposited properly looks exactly like gold, if not in proper chemistry is slightly green, also you should measure its conductivity specific to TiN. Gary Gary Hillman Service Support Specialties, Inc. 9 Mars Court PO Box 365 Montville, NJ 07045 973-263-0640 973-263-8888. -----Original Message----- From: Alain [SMTP:afrobek@yahoo.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 11:09 AM To: mems-talk@memsnet.org Subject: [mems-talk] Sputtering titanium on ceramic Hi all Has anyone sputtered titanium on a ceramic type material (we are using Macor)? We have had good adhesion of titanium on ceramic but when other layers are added (cu and nickel in that order), it peels off. Any literature on a similar process anyone knows of or has experience with? Thanks Alain __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ MEMS-talk@memsnet.org mailing list: to unsubscribe or change your list options, visit http://mail.mems-exchange.org/mailman/listinfo/mems-talk Hosted by the MEMS Exchange, providers of MEMS processing services. Visit us at http://www.memsnet.org/