Bill- What is meant by "the secret is the uniformity of the plasma"? Is this in time? -how the plasma density changes over the duration of the plasma treatment. Or in space? -how the plasma varies throughout the chamber, consequently exposing different portions of the material to different plasma densities. Currently, I have variations in both during my plasma treatment and I'm getting rather irregular results. Any help would be apprecaited. thanks. Michael Vladimer On 4/15/05, Bill Moffatwrote: > I need more information. If you are trying to bond a flexible > polyurethane film to glass, plasma bonding is easy. I have used plasma > times as low as 10 seconds and got terrific unpeelable bonds. the > secret is the uniformity of the plasma, and both surfaces need plasma > treatment together. The polyurethane needs the short time, with longer > times it gets too hot. The glass can withstand much longer time and if I > was trying to bond glass to glass I would use times like 5 minutes.