Do you mean the wagon wheel mask for finding the required etching parameters? If so 'Silicon Machining' Elwenspoek & Jansen (Cambridge University Press, 1998) makes mention of it. There are some formulae but they really need the diagram which is on page 17 of the book. This seems to be only necessary where the substrate has multiple orientations on the surface to be etched. Hope this helps. Daniel -----Original Message----- From: Duan [mailto:brokenspoon@gmail.com] Subject: [mems-talk] Could someone tell me where I can get some informationabout wagon wheel pattern? Such as how big are those spikes? and how many spikes are included in one wagon wheel pattern? and normally how deep will going to be etched?