To give you an idea of how BAD this stuff is, I once saw a demonstration consisting of droping a lead pencil into piranha, it disappeared in puff of black sooty smoke. This stuff is not called piranha for nothing. SC1 and SC may take longer but it is far far safer. Gary -----Original Message----- From: Barry Isenor [SMTP:bisenor@ucalgary.ca] Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 12:07 PM To: 'General MEMS discussion' Subject: RE: [mems-talk] About the Piranha cleaning Always add 1 part H2O2 to 3 parts H2SO4.