I saw a free download of Suprem on the Stanford U. website. It might take a computer geek to get it going. PS: I found it using Google (hint! hint!) Roger Brennan Applications Director Solecon Labs 770 Trademark Drive Reno, NV 89521-5926 roger@Solecon.com 775-853-5900 ext 108 -----Original Message----- From: mems-talk-bounces@memsnet.org [mailto:mems-talk-bounces@memsnet.org]On Behalf Of Jordi Teva Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 2:52 PM To: mems-talk@memsnet.org Subject: [mems-talk] Simulation Program Dear all, I need a free simulator of oxidation, diffusion, ion implantation, etc.. and other processes on Silicon. I have heard about Supreme and Athena but I don't know if they are free.