There is an adhesion promoter available for SU-8: AP300 from Silicon Resources (siliconresources.com). Best Regards, Chad Brubaker EV Group invent * innovate * implement Technology - Tel: 480.727.9635, Fax: 480.727.9700 e-mail: c.brubaker@EVGroup.com, www.EVGroup.com -----Original Message----- From: mems-talk-bounces@memsnet.org [mailto:mems-talk-bounces@memsnet.org] On Behalf Of Chun-Wei Chang Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2006 9:37 AM To: General MEMS discussion Subject: Re: [mems-talk] SU-8 adhesion Dear Bin: The problem may cause by the CTE (coefficient of thermal expansion ) mismatch between silicon wafer and SU8 film. To reduce thermal stress, you could try softbake/PEB/hardbake at lower temperature lasting longer time. Or you could bake the SU8 film with gradually increasing temperature to avoid thermal shock. When you cool down the SU8, try to just turn off the hotplate and let SU8 remain on the hotplate in atmosphere. Using natural cooling may improve your SU8 process. And many researchers mention that DO NOT use HMDS. It don't work with SU8.