Hi John! Hope BU is treating you well. I would use the thermal deposition and raise the background pressure a bit. Try introducing some argon. Your surface roughness will increase with pressure. -Mike U. of Louisville >>>4/19/2007 10:55 AM >>> We'd like to deposit ~50nm Al layers with controlled surface roughnesses ranging from ~5nm Rms to above 10nm Rms. I'm using a Sharon e-beam evaporator system for the deposition but also have access to an Edwards Thermal evaporator. The greater Rms roughness the better. Any ideas? Thanks, John Henson Boston University