Ed: What you just wrote should be read by everyone in the MEMS community. It is spot on in every respect. Having been an etch engineer in the 70's I too notice that a lot of the questions from this group revolves around technologies that were developed and used in main line processing in the 70's and early 80'. The advent of single wafer plasma processing tended to make a lot of these techniques obsolete and in some cases they remain only in old processing minds. Many seem to be relavent for MEMS today as an example the ability to reflow photoresist and use an oxygen rich process to make a positive slope on a variety of metal films to make subsequest depositions like oxide have good step coverage. The same if you need to increase your step coverage in a dielectric film for conformal coverage with a subsequent metal for good coverage. Wet etching also has a variety of tricks like you just outlined to prevent or reduce the amount of lifting of the photoresist masking material. HMDS vapor prime has to be done properly in a vacuum oven but I think it works well on many different films for good photo results. Many of the MEMS specific processes like proper release have gone thru some interesting challanges like critical CO2 initially to some other methods currently in use that are more production (cost) worthy. There are many new challanges ahead for specific processes but in essence many of the older tried and true techniques work and just need to be made available to the MEMS community. I think this forum is a start. Bob Henderson ----- Original Message ----- From: "Edward Sebesta"To: "General MEMS discussion" Sent: Friday, November 16, 2007 7:01 AM Subject: RE: [mems-talk] Best resist for HF etching For SiO2 surfaces, the positive resist won't stick in a flouride solution unless it is buffered to around pH 7. You need to use BOE, Buffered Oxide Etch. This is an old standard in wet oxide etching in the semiconductor industry. It is a solution of ammonium flouride and HF. Almost, any semiconductor chemical vendor makes them. They come with surfactants and are called Superwet, etc. This is important for wetting the wafer and getting good oxide etch, especially for contacts and other small features and high aspect ratio features. There is a classic paper on BOE etching back in the 70s on all this where they did SiO2 etching with positive photoresist under a series of pHs. It is one of the breakthroughs that enabled semiconductor processing. The problem has nothing to do with the type of resist. Any positive resist at an adequate thickness to cover your topology and not have pinholes should do, if the solution is buffered. None will stick, unless there is some radically different positive resist chemistry out there, with out pH buffering. Also, you need to make sure your surface is properly prepared. If you have monolayers of hydrocarbons on it your resist may not stick even during develop. The best method is sulfuric peroxide or an acid peroxide solution, good rinsing and drying, and then Vapor Priming. Use HMDS, Hexamethyldisilane (?) and it abstracts the OH groups off the surface, the other popular theory is that it coats a monolayer of bonded organic groups to the wafer surface, either way it works. However, if your wafer has metal or something, just a good clean in peroxide or just plain water will do. Vapor Prime is thought to be restricted to SiO2 or Silicon, however, I think it works on metal surfaces by being a form of chemical drying. I used it on metal layers in photomasking for years. Though it may have been just an extra set of suspenders. What concerns me most about this question, which I have nothing against in itself, is that we are building on what is already known. How is the MEMS profession using what is already known and building knowledge in general. The Semiconductor industry progressed since almost everyone was running hugh volumes of similar technologies and drove the technology, Moores law and all that. MEMS has diverse technologies. Are we to be merely derivative or largely derivative of semiconductor technology? Can we progress technologically like semiconductor processing/ Ed -----Original Message----- From: mems-talk-bounces@memsnet.org [mailto:mems-talk-bounces@memsnet.org] On Behalf Of Michael A Gingras Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2007 11:13 AM To: mems-talk@memsnet.org Subject: [mems-talk] Best resist for HF etching Hello, Me and my colleagues are trying to etch a 4 micron Pyrex layer with HF using photoresist as a mask. We've seen delamination of the mask as seen by others. We are currently using a Shipley 7 micron resist and 4:1 HF:H2O etch. Any recommendations on the best resist and HF concentration to help us get the whole film etched before delamination? Current the Pyrex is etching about 300A/s, so we'd need something that would last 2-3 minutes. Thanks -Mike