Hallo Ed, thank you for your info. Yes, I use the polymer (not polyimide but nanoimprint- polymer) as ´sacrificial layer´, so its layer is underneath the SiNx (or any dielectric), and Al is deposited on the SiNx and then the polymer should be removed after that. I have compared 2 samples for 3h undercuting using an asher:1) with Al, 2) without Al. The structure we investigated _to check the undercuting process_ looks like a cantilever ca.100µm in lenght, 10µm in width. All of them in sample no. 2 are peeled off. But the cantilevers in sample no.1 seemed stuck to the substrate. I will try to undercut the 1st-sample much longer. or maybe we need to use other metals to replace Al? regards, Onny > From: esebesta@tx.rr.com > To: mems-talk@memsnet.org > Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 10:12:55 -0600 > Subject: [mems-talk] hard ashing polymer (if Al deposited): possible isotropic etch by ICP? > > I am assuming that you are having trouble removing the polymer that is > under patterned material. > > One thing to look at is to see if you can get a solvent to remove the > polymer, such as NMP. > > Oxygen plasma can be used quite well to get under dielectric layers as > long as there isn't some unreasonable geometry. What you need to do is > have a plamsa that is isotropic in nature or downstream from a plasma > with a lot of free radical oxygen or other reactive species. > > However, what I am surprised is that you take 3 hours to remove 2,000 > angstroms polymer. What polymer is this, polyimide? This suggests > perhaps your problem. > > The lateral undercut of organics is going to be less than the rate of > removal in the open areas. So if you take 3 hours to remove 2,000 > angstroms, then to undercut a very small feature such as 4 microns, > would take, (20000 A/(2000/3hr) or 30 hours at least. Since you are > making MEMS devices I suspect you need to do more lateral etching than 2 > microns. > > It sounds like you might be using a barrel asher. I would go to a diode > plasma etcher set up. I don't think you need an inductively coupled > plasma. > > So I would work to make your oxygen plasma more intense and isotropic > increasing power and pressure. Higher temperature increases reactivity > of substrates with ozone and reactive species. Gap might need to be > adjusted. Wider gap I think is less isotropic, if I remember correctly. > > Be CAREFUL that you don't cure your polymer with too high a temperature > which would make removal worse. > > Ed -- Independent Process Engineer