http://www.google.com/patents?hl=en&lr=&vid=USPAT4497684&id=TBkyAAAAEBAJ&oi=fnd The above is the link for the patent. However, I just mention O2 plasma as a step. It seemed to work easily. I don't remember the details of the O2 plasma though. Ed -----Original Message----- From: mems-talk-bounces@memsnet.org [mailto:mems-talk-bounces@memsnet.org] On Behalf Of onny setya Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 10:56 AM To: General MEMS discussion Subject: hard ashing polymer (if Al deposited): possible isotropic etch by ICP? --Thank you Jie, but I need undercutting more than 10µm :( --And thanks again, Ed, I did have an SEM pics of sample no.1, but I could not see clearly whether the polymer is removed and then the structures got stuck into the substrate, or the polymer is not removed at all. I will try using NMP and other metal as well for the devices. The processes I had are (as u wrote): 1. Spin polymer 2. Deposit SiNx/SiOx 3. Deposit Al 4. Photomask pattern. 5. Etch Al (wet) 6. Etch SiNx/SiOx 7. Strip photoresist (wet first, then plasma) 8. Oxygen plasma undercut About your old-patent, do you mind if I take a look at that´stupid´process? (no idea why u called it like that though) regards, Onny