Just to clarify about optical means: Ellipsometers and reflectometers measure blanket (unpatterned) films. They cannot provide useful thickness or composition information for thicknesses above about 50 nm. Optical interferometers (Wyko, or Zygo) can be used to measure patterned films, either single steps (using e.g. the already-suggest Kapton-tape approach), or multiple steps/trenches (patterned lithographically, or with a shadow mask). Calibration is essential, and unless you have access to a well-maintained system, with a trained operator, it will take quite a bit of time to get a useful measurement. But, the technique is sound and successful, whether you're measuring a single step in a field of perhaps only a few microns square, or many steps simultaneously across an entire wafer. In my experience, stylus profilometers are faster and simpler, and just as accurate, as compared to optical interferometry, if all you want is a couple of measurements on a wafer. Albert K. Henning, PhD Director of MEMS Technology NanoInk, Inc. 215 E. Hacienda Avenue Campbell, CA 95008 408-379-9069 ext 101 ahenning@nanoink.net -----Original Message----- From: Rick Williston [mailto:lrwilliston@hotmail.com] Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 10:14 AM To: mems-talk@memsnet.org Subject: Re: [mems-talk] Ti layer measurement... An optical interferometer would work, so it is possible. Zygo for one makes a unit like this. Most stylus profilometers will easily do this. Another technique for a blanket Ti layer would be an eddy current system but not knowing more about the deposition parameters, I'd assume the purity and conductivity to be suspect and steer clear of this technique, without a little calibration work Rick Williston