thx for the info Joe. I'll try to bake only the PDMS mold to rule out the temperature factor. However, if I understand ur theory correctly, with PR on the top side, PDMS mold should bend like a up-side-down bowl. but what I got is the other way around, i.e. the side without PR is actually the side which expanded. any way, thx for the info, I'll let u know if I get this tackled. shao --- On Mon, 3/30/09, jgrogan@seas.upenn.eduwrote: From: jgrogan@seas.upenn.edu Subject: Re: [mems-talk] PDMS mold bends after 100C baking To: "General MEMS discussion" Date: Monday, March 30, 2009, 1:19 AM -----Inline Attachment Follows----- I don't think it's bending from the temperature. It's bending from the solvent in the SU8. The same thing happened to me when I tried to spin coat 1813 on PDMS. PDMS swells in solvents. If you drop a block of PDMS into acetone for a couple hours the whole thing will swell up. Harsher solvents like toluene will make it balloon up to 2x its original size. People take advantage of this to remove unbound monomers in the PDMS so that hydrophilic surface treatments last longer. The bad news for you is that if you spin coat photoresist on one surface, that surface will swell up while the other surfaces remain the same, and the result is a bowed substrate. Unfortunately, I don't have a good solution for you because I didn't pursue it any further. Two possible suggestions, though, would be to either: a) coat the surface of the PDMS with something to prevent the photoresist solvent from contacting the PDMS material. Maybe sputter or evaporate a metal layer. b) oxygen plasma treat the heck out of the surface. It's my understanding that extended oxygen plasma creates a glassy layer on the surface of the PDMS, which is why you shouldn't over do the plasma treatment when bonding pdms. But maybe you could do it on purpose and form a surface layer to protect the rest of the material. good luck! Joe Grogan