Nicolas, I agree with Michael using an adhesion promoter will help. For the total answer one of our pieces of equipment which is a dedicated adhesion promoter would be the total answer. It would also be an expensive answer. If you want to test for free, get back to me and I will arrange it. Bill Moffat -----Original Message----- From: mems-talk-bounces@memsnet.org [mailto:mems-talk-bounces@memsnet.org] On Behalf Of Nicolas Vergauwe Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 9:16 AM To: mems-talk@memsnet.org Subject: [mems-talk] Local pinholes in parylene layer Hi guys, I'm working on systems where I use parylene as a dielectric. The parylene thickness I used was 800 nm. Although the CVD process of parylene is known as pinhole-free, I see frequently some pinholes in my dielectric layer (which is not the same as breakthrough because most other places are ok). Therefore I thought of depositing two parylene layers of 800 nm, where between the two depositions I clean with piranha (3:1) to remove possible dust or contaminants. But still the problem of pinholes persists. Can you give me any comments or suggestions how to solve this nasty problem? Could it be that something goes wrong during the etching of the parylene (to free the contact pads so I can test my device)? Thanks, Nicolas