No ideas on the laser treatment. I do not see how it could work unless they are talking laser in combination with a silane to reconstruct the surface layer. What are you trying to do? If there is a commercial use at the end of the tunnel we could do some free samples for you. Bill Moffat, CEO Yield Engineering Systems, Inc. 203-A Lawrence Drive, Livermore, CA 94551-5152 (925) 373-8353 www.yieldengineering.com -----Original Message----- From: mems-talk-bounces@memsnet.org [mailto:mems-talk-bounces@memsnet.org] On Behalf Of Miyakawa, Natsuki Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 5:47 AM To: General MEMS discussion Subject: [mems-talk] Turning Si surface hydrophobic Bill, Thanks for the response. The pH values can range up to 12. I've heard of turning surface hydrophobic by microstructuring using laser, but so far I could find some works only with plastic materials, not with Si. Any idea? Natsuki -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: mems-talk-bounces@memsnet.org [mailto:mems-talk-bounces@memsnet.org] Im Auftrag von Bill Moffat Gesendet: Dienstag, 17. November 2009 19:45 An: General MEMS discussion Betreff: Re: [mems-talk] Turning Si surface hydrophobic Natsuki, YES to 1 contact angles much greater than 70 simple chemical work gives up to 130. Yes to 2 at room temperature dependent upon chemistry I have 5 year old microscope slides that have a contact angle of 103. The same as when we produced them 5 years ago, they have been sitting on my desk for the last 5 years. Do not know about the thermally stable at 800-900 C we have never been tested that high. This could be the reason some of our customers are asking for high temperature chemical delivery systems. Chemically stable within reason in alkaline solutions what PH?. Bill Moffat _______________________________________________ Hosted by the MEMS and Nanotechnology Exchange, the country's leading provider of MEMS and Nanotechnology design and fabrication services. Visit us at http://www.mems-exchange.org Want to advertise to this community? See http://www.memsnet.org To unsubscribe: http://mail.mems-exchange.org/mailman/listinfo/mems-talk