Mikael, There are far better chemistries for adhesion for SU8 than HMDS. In fact I do not think HMDS has any effect on SU8 chemistry. When I get to work on Monday I will discuss with our senior process engineer Ken Sautter and send some suggestions for better chemistry and treatment. Bill Moffat ________________________________ From: mems-talk-bounces+bmoffat=3Dyieldengineering.com@memsnet.org on = behalf of Mikael Evander Sent: Fri 12/10/2010 7:38 PM To: General MEMS discussion Subject: [mems-talk] SU-8 3000 vs 2000 adhesion Hi all! I was wondering if anyone has some kind of input regarding how much better the adhesion of SU-8 3000 is compared to the 2000 formulation. I'm trying to make a 10- 20 um wide, 5 um high and up to 10 mm long "barrier"on a glass wafer. I did my first tests with SU-8 2005 this week and noticed that the adhesion was terrible. Very few of the barriers remained intact and after dicing the wafers most of them were gone. My wafers were piranha washed and HMDS-treated just before spinning the SU-8. I've been reading a bit and people usually recommend making sure that the exposure time is enough, doing a low temperature PEB, ramping of the hot plates, having a very clean and dehydrated wafer. Something that also comes up a lot is to use SU-8 3000 instead as it is supposed to have increased adhesion. My question is if anyone can comment on how well the 3000 formulation seems to adhere to glass substrates. I need the structure to remain intact as it will be a mechanical part of a microfluidic device. Many thanks and have a great weekend! /Mikael