Gareth, SU8 is an epoxy based resist and does not work with HMDS. A preferred adhesion promoter would be either APTES or APTMS or an epoxy based adhesion promoter such as 3-GOPS. All of which work with SU8. Unfortunately the vapor pressure of these chemicals is such that a simple YES vacuum vapor primer does not work. We have developed special systems the 1224P or the LabKote for special chemicals. Bill Moffat -----Original Message----- From: mems-talk-bounces+bmoffat=yieldengineering.com@memsnet.org [mailto:mems-talk-bounces+bmoffat=yieldengineering.com@memsnet.org] On Behalf Of Gareth Jenkins Sent: Sunday, December 12, 2010 8:43 AM To: General MEMS discussion Subject: Re: [mems-talk] SU-8 3000 vs 2000 adhesion I have also read that HMDS can make adhesion worse if any moisture gets involved. As for glass, I have only every tried the standard formulation. I could get good adhesion (without HMDS) but it wasn't easy. I too would be interested in finding out more about the 2000 & 3000 formulations. Does anyone know what solvents they actually use?