I've had this exact same thing happen myself. I never did figure out the problem but the comment regarding baking the first layer too long sounds plausible. On Jul 3, 2012 8:52 AM, "Yingtao Tian"wrote: > Hi Darren, > > Could you remind how thick is the first layer and second layer? Also, when > you say 'the resist flow away from the edges into the centre', did you mean > the resist at the edge shows poor wettability and completely flows off the > first layer surface? Or, did you mean the resist at the edge just flows > back a bit and the edge is thinner than the centre? If it is the latter > case, I think that's normal situation for thick SU8 due to the high surface > tension. > > But, it would be strange to see the SU8 to 'ball up'. I would suspect the > first layer was baked too long. > > Yingtao > > -----Original Message----- > From: mems-talk-bounces+y.tian=bham.ac.uk@memsnet.org [mailto: > mems-talk-bounces+y.tian=bham.ac.uk@memsnet.org] On Behalf Of Darren > Alvares > Sent: 03 July 2012 03:07 > To: mems-talk@memsnet.org > Subject: [mems-talk] Su-8 2075 Process > > Hi All, > > SU-8 is a pretty well studied and commonly used resist and it seems in > most instances I can achieve the types of results I want. However, recently > I have encountered a few problems with multilayer structures. The main > issue I think stems from the uniformity of the thickness. However, I could > be wrong on this. > > I am after making a freestanding su-8 mould for use in pdms moulding. The > su-8 is applied to a silicon wafer. I would like to have a thin first > layer followed by my patterned top layer. The first layer seems to work ok. > I use a high spin speed of 4000RPM and a long softbake (gradual ramp up and > down). The exposure is done in steps to avoid any over heating and a > shortened prebake is done after. The problem occurs when I spin on the > second layer. During the softbake (which is designed to be around 2hrs) the > resist flows away from the edges into the center. This is not an issue I > think that stems from the hotplate incline as that would cause the the > resist to flow to one edge. > > The only explainations I had were > > * The edge effect of the first layer means it is thicker on the > outside then on the inside which means that the second layer when heated > flows inward. I tried increasing the spin speed of layer 1 but this still > happened. > * The surface tension of the SU-8 uncured is very high causing it to > ball up. > > I had a search online for multilayer papers and found quite a few but none > mentioned this issue. Anyone experience this or heard of it in the > literature? Would be great to get your thoughts. > > > Regards, > > Darren Alvares > _______________________________________________ > Hosted by the MEMS and Nanotechnology Exchange, the country's leading > provider of MEMS and Nanotechnology design and fabrication services. > Visit us at http://www.mems-exchange.org > > Want to advertise to this community? See http://www.memsnet.org > > To unsubscribe: > http://mail.mems-exchange.org/mailman/listinfo/mems-talk > _______________________________________________ > Hosted by the MEMS and Nanotechnology Exchange, the country's leading > provider of MEMS and Nanotechnology design and fabrication services. > Visit us at http://www.mems-exchange.org > > Want to advertise to this community? See http://www.memsnet.org > > To unsubscribe: > http://mail.mems-exchange.org/mailman/listinfo/mems-talk > _______________________________________________ Hosted by the MEMS and Nanotechnology Exchange, the country's leading provider of MEMS and Nanotechnology design and fabrication services. Visit us at http://www.mems-exchange.org Want to advertise to this community? See http://www.memsnet.org To unsubscribe: http://mail.mems-exchange.org/mailman/listinfo/mems-talk