Hello, I'm doing single layer SU8 2005, thickness ~6-7um. I use 60mJ/cm^-2 on sputtered gold surface. But somehow sometimes I notice that the edges of my pattern darkens, I suspect it's due to overexposed. But 60mJ is quite a low dose compared to the recommended one. I would appreciate any comments given. Thank you. Best Regards, Jocelyn Sent from my iPhone On 16 Jan, 2013, at 5:23, "Daniel Figura"wrote: > Hello Bill, > > I have recently done similar process (4 um + 20 um) and if I compare the > parameters I notice following differences: > >> First layer 5um: >> Spin 3" Si wafer with SU-8 2002 at 500rpm for 5s, then 1000rpm for 30s. > (similar) >> Softbake the sample :1min@65C then 3 min@95C (hotplate) > (I baked my 4 um layer for 1 + 4 min, so 5 um layer I would bake 1 + > 5-6 min at 95) >> Expose it without waiting for 25s with a total of 125mJ/cm^-2 > (similar - I needed 200 mJ/cm2 on transparent substrate to get best > resolution so 125 mJ/cm2 on silicon sounds very real to me) >> Postbake it without waiting for 1min@65C and 1min@95C (hotplate) > (I would bake it much longer, 1 + 5-6 min. I bake my 4 um layer > 1min/65C + 4 min 95C) > > >> Second layer 15um: >> Spin the second layer without waiting with SU-8 2010 at 500rpm for 5s, >> then 2000rpm for 30s. >> Softbake the sample 2min@65C then 5min@95C (hotplate) > (I would bake 15 um layer at least 10 min at 95, I baked 20 um layer > 12-15 min) >> Expose it without waiting for 45s with a total of 225mJ/cm^-2 > (Is there any need to increase the exposure dose? There is not much > light absorbed in 15 um layer of SU-8) >> Postbake it without waiting for 1min@65C and 2mailto:2min@95C (hotplate) > (I again baked my layers much longer - same as SB) > > My process was not optimized but worked fine for the goal and resolution we > needed. > > Just to be sure - do you use open lid spin coater and contact exposure with > not-contaminated mask? > > > With best regards, > > Daniel > > > > Daniel Figura > > smartfabgroupT Company > > process consulting . data processing . fab software > > Phone: +421 944 45 26 86 > > E-mail: daniel.figura@smartfabgroup.com, Web: www.smartfabgroup.com > > > > Disclaimer notice: The information contained in this message and any > attachments is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the > designated recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient > of this message you are hereby notified that any review, disseminitation, > distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have > received this message by error, please notify the sender immediately. > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: mems-talk-bounces+daniel.figura=smartfabgroup.com@memsnet.org > [mailto:mems-talk-bounces+daniel.figura=smartfabgroup.com@memsnet.org] On > Behalf Of Bill Chow > Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2013 16:21 > To: General MEMS discussion > Subject: Re: [mems-talk] Double layer SU-8 fabrication problem > > Thanks for your suggestion. I will try it tomorrow. > > But the wrinkles exist in between the top and bottom layer. Also, It occurs > when I soft bake the second layer. That is before the exposure of the second > > layer. I doubt why it happens at that time, but not when I soft bake the > first layer? > > Bill > > -----????----- > From: Gareth Jenkins > Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2013 1:50 PM > To: General MEMS discussion > Subject: Re: [mems-talk] Double layer SU-8 fabrication problem > > By "dry skin" effect, I assume you mean wrinkles. Since they only occur in > the exposed area, this indicates insufficient crosslinking of the exposed > resist. > Either the post-exposure bake is not enough or your exposure dose is > insufficient (probably the exposure dose is the issue in my experience). > As for expiry date - 1 month is nothing. As long as it is stored OK it > should last well beyond the stated date. > > > On 12 January 2013 22:36, Bill Chow wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I am working on a double layer structure with bottom layer 5um and top >> layer at 15um. I have used SU-8 2002 and SU-8 2010, however they have >> passed the expiry date for about a month (Would it be a problem?). In the >> last month, I was successed to make a beautiful sample out without any >> problem. However, Last week I tried to fabricate one more sample (due to >> misalignment of the structure in the first sample). I found there is a >> terrible problem arise. After I fabricated the first layer and spinned the >> 2nd layer, I put the sample on the 65C hot plate for soft bake. However, >> the sample shows a "dry skin" like structure between the interface of >> the >> first and second layer of SU-8 just after a few seconds on the hotplate. I >> don't know why a previously worked process could failed after a few >> weeks.... I have try to use the same bottle of SU-8 2010 and let the >> sample >> to cool down to room temperature before the second layer softbake, however >> the problem remains. A very interest point is that, only the exposed area >> have the "dry skin" appearance, for the unexposed area it don't have >> any >> problem. I hope someone could help me in this tough situation. Thanks. >> >> First layer 5um: >> Spin 3" Si wafer with SU-8 2002 at 500rpm for 5s, then 1000rpm for 30s. >> Softbake the sample mailto:1min@65C then 3 min@95C (hotplate) >> Expose it without waiting for 25s with a total of 125mJ/cm^-2 >> Postbake it without waiting for 1min@65C and 1min@95C (hotplate) >> >> Second layer 15um: >> Spin the second layer without waiting with SU-8 2010 at 500rpm for 5s, >> then 2000rpm for 30s. >> Softbake the sample 2min@65C then 5min@95C (hotplate) >> Expose it without waiting for 45s with a total of 225mJ/cm^-2 >> Postbake it without waiting for 1min@65C and 2mailto:2min@95C (hotplate) >> >> Regards, >> Bill >> _______________________________________________ >> Hosted by the MEMS and Nanotechnology Exchange, the country's leading >> provider of MEMS and Nanotechnology design and fabrication services. >> Visit us at http://www.mems-exchange.org >> >> Want to advertise to this community? 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