On Sep 24, 2013, at 12:41, Davewrote: > Are you sure on the NH4F safety? My understanding is that this simply > dissociates into HF once it is combined with water. > > Whenever I use etchants with NH4F or ammonium biflouride I treat them like > HF. My understanding - with the caveat that I'm very much *not* a wet etch or safety specialist - is that the general health hazard of NH4F is similar to HF (free fluorine radicals getting into the body and screwing with cellular ion transport processes, aka "fluorosis"), but the severity is not *quite* as high. NH4F (as well as Fujifilm Pad Etch) shows as NFPA health hazard class 3, while HF is 4. The MSDS does recommend the use of calgonate for NH4F exposure to skin. But you're absolutely right that you still want to be very careful with NH4F, and take spills and splashes seriously. Just because it's not pure HF doesn't make it innocuous. _______________________________________________ Hosted by the MEMS and Nanotechnology Exchange, the country's leading provider of MEMS and Nanotechnology design and fabrication services. Visit us at http://www.mems-exchange.org Want to advertise to this community? See http://www.memsnet.org To unsubscribe: http://mail.mems-exchange.org/mailman/listinfo/mems-talk