Hi Hoyin, Y-C Tai's group (from CalTech) presented a couple of papers with free-staanding parylene beams at MEMS 2002. It appears they used dry etching to release their beams (BrF3 etching polysilicon). Perhaps they have some insight on wet releasing. Jesse Fowler UCLA/MAE Dept., 420 Westwood Plaza, Room 18-121, ENGR IV Los Angeles, CA 90095-1597 | (310)825-3977 "Battery is safe if not provoked." -- _Batteries in a Portable World_ On Tue, 26 Mar 2002, Chan Ho Yin wrote: > Hi Mighty, > > Thank you for your help first!!! > > On top of Al, I have deposited polymer Parylene. I guess may be you are > right. I can see that the beam bends. But my problem is that I can see the > beam floating on the solution, with one end fixed on the substrate. I don't > know whether you can understand or not. Let's say, when I shake the bottle > with solution inside, the beam cannot withstand the fuild flow and vibrate > to and fro. In fact, I am not shaking the bottle. I've just pulled the > substrate out. I should say.. the beam will follow the fuild motion. Hope > you can understand. My english is not good enough!!! > > Thank you very much!!!! > > Yours, > Hoyin > > > >From: Mighty Platypus> >Reply-To: mems-talk@memsnet.org > >To: mems-talk@memsnet.org > >Subject: Re: [mems-talk] Sacrifical release > >Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2002 07:22:02 -0800 (PST) > > > >Greetings Chan Ho, > >What you're probably seeing is the result of film stress, not any sort of > >fluid force. You'll probably be able to find some information about stress > >reduction in Madou, Kovacs, Trimmer, or possibly even Maluf. By the way, > >what material are you depositing on top of Aluminum (to make your beams)? > > > >Jesse Fowler > > UCLA/MAE Dept., 420 Westwood Plaza, Room 18-121, ENGR IV > > Los Angeles, CA 90095-1597 | (310)825-3977 > >"Battery is safe if not provoked." -- _Batteries in a Portable World_ > > > >On Tue, 26 Mar 2002, Chan Ho Yin wrote: > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > I am a beginner in MEMS field and I am now fabricating a simple > > > cantilever beam. The sacrifical layer is Al (~2um). The beam thickness > is > > > ~0.5um and length is ~500um. When I tried to release the structure > using > > > AZ300 PR developer, I found that the released beam will bent or twist > due > > > to the force caused by the fluid flow (PR developer). > > > > > > Even I hold the sample carefully, the beam still bent or twist when > I > > > tried to pull the sample out of the solution. It can't stand straight. > What > > > should I do? Is there any technique in handling this?? I guess this > might > > > too simple to you. But it is important to me. Can you suggest me with > > > detailed steps? Thank you very much!!!! > > > > > > Yours, > > > Hoyin > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > (O%N%~2y3L&h$H(O%N*:9q$l6l%s*A0H MSN Hotmail!A=P2>&\ > http://www.hotmail.com > > > !C > > > _______________________________________________ > > > mems-talk@memsnet.org mailing list: to unsubscribe or change your list > > > options, visit http://mail.mems-exchange.org/mailman/listinfo/mems-talk > > > Hosted by the MEMS Exchange, providers of MEMS processing services. > > > Visit us at http://www.mems-exchange.org/ > >_______________________________________________ > >mems-talk@memsnet.org mailing list: to unsubscribe or change your list > >options, visit http://mail.mems-exchange.org/mailman/listinfo/mems-talk > >Hosted by the MEMS Exchange, providers of MEMS processing services. > >Visit us at http://www.mems-exchange.org/ > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > (O%N MSN Messenger!A;P*B$M&b=u$W2a$Q!Ghttp://messenger.microsoft.com/tc!C > _______________________________________________ > mems-talk@memsnet.org mailing list: to unsubscribe or change your list > options, visit http://mail.mems-exchange.org/mailman/listinfo/mems-talk > Hosted by the MEMS Exchange, providers of MEMS processing services. > Visit us at http://www.mems-exchange.org/