Greetings all, For people subscribed to more than one mailing list, sorry for the multiple versions of this in your mailbox. The news group sci.engr.micromachining has passed the group creation process and fulfilled both criteria (2/3rds of the votes being YES votes and 100 more YES votes than NO votes). The results were encouraging for two reasons. The first is the international mix of votes. At least 28 countries took part in the vote! This is *much* more international participation than a typical Usenet new group vote. The voter turnout was also very good for a sci.engr hierarchy vote (particularly a vote that took place in August). Turnout for a successful vote in this hierarchy is usually in the 200-250 vote range, with 20+ votes in the opposition. The fact that there were so many votes (353 for) and so comparatively little opposition (17 against) is certainly an encouraging sign. The control signal to begin propagation of sci.engr.micromachining should be sent by Friday night. Since the group went through the standard creation (RFD/CFV) process, it will have at least 90% propagation throughout the world. If you have good connectivity, the group should be on your news server by Saturday, though it could take up to a week past this. If your sys admin adds new groups manually, you might have to mention that the group exists if you can't find it after this time. The next step is the creation of an introductory FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions) for the group. Danny Banks of the UK has contributed some excellent material for the introduction. That, along with the charter, should be enough to provide a welcome to the new group. Over time, I will integrate material that is discussed in the mailing lists and newsgroup. Hopefully this will cut down on questions on the group in the area of, "Where can I get this material or process done". I also intend to build up a list of reading material, facilities for hire, and other general interest stuff as my time permits. The maintenance of this FAQ will be an ongoing process, and I hope for feedback and suggestions for added information at all times. The FAQ won't belong to anyone (although information on it will be cited to its owner), and it will be a sort of general repository of information. "Your mileage may vary" as they say, with its use. As it grows, I'll probably split it up into individual sections to be posted separately. Typically I'll post the FAQ every 10-15 days, as this is the standard expiration date for posts on news servers. As the group matures, I may lengthen that to once per month. Another important point to make about this group is that it is the first step in networking information worldwide via the Usenet. While the sci.engr hierarchy has a good reputation for high signal to noise ratio in posts, there have been some legitimate concerns over the fact that as an unmoderated group, people are going to have to wade through some junk posts. Once the group has been around for a while, and proven decent traffic, we will be justified in creating a moderated version of the group. Something like sci.engr.micromachining.research (or .moderated). Posts would be randomly distributed to a team of volunteer moderators via a robo-moderator. Again, this is for the future (perhaps a year from now). One final comment I feel I should make, if only on the off-chance this has been a concern that was considered but not discussed. Even though they share much of the same medium, mailing lists and newsgroups on similar topics have historically complemented each other. There is typically no competition for usage, and in general, they tend to increase the sphere of overall communication. Mailing lists tend to offer a denser feed of information while there tends to be a greater variety of information on newsgroups. FAQs have been historically attached to newsgroups, while archives are kept in either forum. I hope this was not a concern for anyone, but just in case. Attached is a breakdown of the votes for those who are interested in demographics (although this should not be seen as an indication of interest in the science; more an issue of Internet connectivity). A complete list of who voted is posted in news.groups as per group creation regulations. Thanks to everyone who participated in the vote! Best regards, -Chris -- .+'''+. |Christopher Raum - craum@robinhood.engg.uregina.ca| R A U M |Graduate Student, Faculty of Engineering | `+.,.+' |University of Regina, Regina, Saskatchewan, Canada| |S4S-0A2 Tel: (306)565-2960 Fax: (306)585-4855 | *************************************************************** USA (81 and many of the com and org domain votes) Canada (35) Germany (24) United Kingdom (24) Switzerland (12) Belgium (10) France (9) The Netherlands (9) Australia (7) Denmark (7) Republic of Ireland (7) Sweden (6) Japan (4) Korea (South) (2) New Zealand (2) Brazil (1) co (1) (Not sure what country this domain belongs to) Greece (1) Hong Kong (1) Israel (1) Italy (1) Poland (1) Romania (1) Russia (1) Singapore (1) Slovakia (1) Spain (1) Ukraine (1) com domain (81) org domain (11) net domain (9)