Rob I have never had discussion with someone experienced with Sol-gel methods....is this a multiple step process? Yes, first a sol is prepared in a chemistry lab. This is a solution of reactive inorganic precursors that will undergo polymerization. The polymerization being initiated by hydrolysis. The second stage is to deposit the film - this is usually done through spin casting of the sol onto an appropiat substrate. In which film thickness is controlled by applying successive sol layers. Thermal treatments may be applied to each layer to pyrolise (remove residual carbon) or to dry off solvent. Don't you have to thermal process after deposit? Yes, When the desired film thickness has been achieved the deposited film which is amorphous, needs to be sintered. How do you control density (porosity)? Density is in part dependent on the sintering that you are using, temperature and gas etc. It will also depend on the amount of carbon in the sol and the drying conditions used between each layer deposition. Do you have to apply a DC field above the curie temp to group the domains? Yes, poling is necessary, but this is done below the curie temperature! This can be done in oil or using corona discharge Just wondering.... Rob -----Original Message----- From: mems-talk-admin@memsnet.org [mailto:mems-talk-admin@memsnet.org]On Behalf Of Haigh, Richard Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 1:50 AM To: mems-talk@memsnet.org Subject: RE: [mems-talk] how to deposit PZT David I am not too familiar with sputtering PZT; I believe that this can be done with a pzt target. I don't know how you would introduce doping ions to your films. I am not too sure of the conditions used e.g. carrier gas, type of sputtering system etc. However, I have deposited thin films of pzt with sol-gel by means of spin coating (chemical solution deposition). An advantage of this process is that it allows good control over the homogeneity of the deposited film. In other words sol gel rout allows you to control the concentration of dopants, and to uniformly distribute them throughout the deposited film. Please note that pzt needs to be sintered and thermal treatments can interfere with other processes that you may be considering on your wafer Regards Richard -----Original Message----- From: David Yen [mailto:yentajen@ucla.edu] Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2002 6:22 PM To: mems-talk@memsnet.org Subject: [mems-talk] how to deposit PZT Dear all, Does anybody have experience or idea of depositing PZT, especially by sputtering? Thanks a lot. David _______________________________________________ mems-talk@memsnet.org mailing list: to unsubscribe or change your list options, visit http://mail.mems-exchange.org/mailman/listinfo/mems-talk Hosted by the MEMS Exchange, providers of MEMS processing services. Visit us at http://www.mems-exchange.org/ _______________________________________________ mems-talk@memsnet.org mailing list: to unsubscribe or change your list options, visit http://mail.mems-exchange.org/mailman/listinfo/mems-talk Hosted by the MEMS Exchange, providers of MEMS processing services. Visit us at http://www.mems-exchange.org/ _______________________________________________ mems-talk@memsnet.org mailing list: to unsubscribe or change your list options, visit http://mail.mems-exchange.org/mailman/listinfo/mems-talk Hosted by the MEMS Exchange, providers of MEMS processing services. Visit us at http://www.mems-exchange.org/