Bill, It sounds like a good idea, but unfortunately the epoxy we use must not be exposed to temperatures above ~60oC, otherwise it starts getting soft and we lose our features. Can it be done at the lower temperature? What sort of gases do you recommend, SF6 or CF4 as well as O2, Ar, N2? We use hexane to remove silicone and have a plasma asher with the latter of the gases connected, which is used just prior to the metallisation. Do you know of any adhesion promoters (HMDS?) which would work on epoxy? Also, where abouts are you based, USA? Kind regards, Fred. -----Original Message----- From: mems-talk-admin@memsnet.org [mailto:mems-talk-admin@memsnet.org]On Behalf Of Bill Moffat Sent: 07 August 2002 15:39 To: mems-talk@memsnet.org Subject: RE: [mems-talk] Adhesion of metal to epoxy substrates Fred, This could explain a number of special units we have built with no indication of the final use. These are special Plasma/Silane deposition units. Think stainless oven set at 150 degrees C able to do vacuum priming with flat capacitive stainless plasma generators for precleaning. let me know if you want to test this approach. Bill Moffat -----Original Message----- From: Fred Hussain [mailto:fh1@techprt.co.uk] Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2002 1:31 AM To: mems-talk@memsnet.org Subject: [mems-talk] Adhesion of metal to epoxy substrates Dear Collegues, I am looking for any advice/information on how to improve adhesion of evaporated metal (nichrome + gold) onto thermo-epoxy based substrates. In particular, information on chemical and physical (plasma) surface pre-treatments and/or alternative metals which may have a distinct advantage over nichrome and gold, would be highly appreciated. Thanking you in advance, Fred. _______________________________________________ MEMS-talk@memsnet.org mailing list: to unsubscribe or change your list options, visit http://mail.mems-exchange.org/mailman/listinfo/mems-talk Hosted by the MEMS Exchange, providers of MEMS processing services. Visit us at http://www.memsnet.org/ _______________________________________________ MEMS-talk@memsnet.org mailing list: to unsubscribe or change your list options, visit http://mail.mems-exchange.org/mailman/listinfo/mems-talk Hosted by the MEMS Exchange, providers of MEMS processing services. Visit us at http://www.memsnet.org/