Jeff, A possible 2 step process. 1) plasma deposit HMDS a soft goopy material about the consistency of jello. This can be as thick as you need and is totally hydrophobic. Then dice then with the die in waffle packs use a plasma to remove the deposited HMDS. My company has manufactured equipment for both of these processes but not for this type of use. Contact me if you think I can help. Bill Moffat -----Original Message----- From: Jeff Hibner [mailto:jhibner@akustica.com] Sent: Friday, November 22, 2002 7:45 AM To: mems-talk@memsnet.org Subject: [mems-talk] MEMS Dicing question We have developed a MEMS based microphone that will be used in the cell phone industry. One of the problems we have run into is in the dicing process. The membranes on the chip are very fragile and can very easily damaged. We can't use tape directly on the chips and water would hurt them. We are experimenting with using two layers of tape with the first layer having holes punched out where the membranes will be and the second layer forms a tent over them. With this process the membranes will never touch the tape. If there is anyway your company could help us we'd appreciate any ideas and would enjoy working with you. Thank you, Jeff Hibner Akustica Inc. 2403 Sidney Street Pittsburgh PA 15203 Phone 412-390-1730 _______________________________________________ MEMS-talk@memsnet.org mailing list: to unsubscribe or change your list options, visit http://www.memsnet.org/mailman/listinfo/mems-talk Hosted by the MEMS Exchange, providers of MEMS processing services. Visit us at http://www.memsnet.org/