Oh yes, and while I'm asking questions, is there a way to debug quixote apps? I'm getting really weird behaviour over the web that I can't reproduce at the python REPL. If no such thing exists, it looks like I could hack the ZPublisher Test.py to change publish_module() etc. to deal with the Quixote publishing process. But I don't want to do it if someone already has. Being able to fake up a web request would also make high level unit testing possible.