>Why do you want the current CVS tree? Maybe there's some way to help >you get what you want despite not having a public CVS repository. Andrew, Looks like he wants the source to splat: >>cvs -d :pserver:anonymous@cvs.mems-exchange.org:/home/cvs co splat It would be nice to have some example source code (beyond the demo) available as a learning tool. I found woolgather to be a big help to me. Patrick