On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 07:51:23PM +0300, Oleg Broytmann wrote:
>    I never understood web things. Who needs wiki/chat/webforums when
> there is such a great thing as email?!

I always find wikis difficult to navigate through.  I'd rather have
a good searchable mail archive.

BTW, if you want to use ps to find the PIDs, something like this is
probably better:

    ps h -opid -C 

As other people have mentioned though, using the PID file is more
reliable.

  Neil