-> On Sat, Feb 28, 2004 at 08:09:17PM -0800, Titus Brown wrote: -> > Attached; it does two things: -> > -> > * Session.__init__ now takes as arguments (id, remote_addr, create_time=None) -> > and sets creation time to time() by default; -> > -> > * SessionManager.new_session instantiates session_class with remote_addr -> > directly: -> > -> > session = self.session_class(id, request.get_environ('REMOTE_ADDR')) -> -> After further though, I would prefer that the signature of Session -> not be changed. It's possible that some application sessions are -> not interested in 'remote_address' or they want to use some other -> data in the request when creating sessions (e.g. cookies). [ munch ] -> Does that work for you? As it turns out -- maybe not ;). The only time a real 'request' object is available is when the session is being created as a direct result of a Web access. This means that unless you use Object Magic (tm) to create the object from a database *without* going through the __init__ function, you're stuck with creating a fake 'request' object that mimics the get_environ function. On purist grounds, I think this is an unreasonable requirement borne from the original design around ZODB. In practice, I can fake it, of course... cheers, --titus