On Sat, Jan 08, 2005 at 12:14:24AM -0600, Skip Montanaro wrote: > What's the logic behind that sort of move? I can't think of a good reason right now. There almost certainly was some reason for it though. > Can I thwart it in a reasonable way or do I have to always extract > values like so: > > widgets['venue'].parse(request) or "" That's what we do if we want to fallback to an empty string if the user hasn't entered anything. Neil