Following up on my earlier thread, I've released a working version (bleeding edge, early alpha) of 'eptl', my block-syntax extension to PTL. http://fawcett.medialab.uwindsor.ca/quixote/eptl/ I've written a few small applications with it. Personally, I'm happy with the syntax, and plan to keep using it. :-) If you're crazy enough to try it out, I'd love to hear your feedback. Requires a slightly-patched Quixote, or the unreleased Quixote 2.2. See the page for details. Graham