On Oct 25, 2005, at 4:46 AM, Mike Orr wrote: > The question for Quixote is, what does it want to be in this new era? > One option is to cede the beginners' market to TurboGears, and my > hunch is that's the best. Aquarium's author (JJ Behrens) has > expressed willingness to do this if TG (or another) becomes the > frontrunner, and wishes such a framework existed when he wrote > Aquarium. And I wish a full stack object publisher like TG had existed before I started working on QLime. Trying to market QLime at this point is probably not a good idea. Going a little off topic... PTL is the best new idea from Quixote IMO. I was thinking if it made sense to extend the idea to SQL. For example: class Accounts: database = 'customer' def getAccountName [sql] (account_id): "SELECT name FROM accounts WHERE account_id=%s" % account_id Calling the method would not only create the SQL string but also execute it and return the query results. This would enable very clean Python-oriented database access layers. Cheers, Shalabh