These silver loaded epoxies (such as Epotek H20E) are designed for gold to gold bonding. They are optimized for electrical and thermal contact, not strength, but there shouldn't be any problems. The two epoxy vendors I mentioned have data on the maximum die size versus CTE mismatch for each type of epoxy they sell. It's either on the website or available from talking to an applications engineer. Epoxy has a lot more "give" to it than solder. If you peruse the options, there are different epoxies depending on whether you are concerned most with thermal dissipation or CTE mismatch. Bonding GaAs chips with gold backsides to gold plated aluminum is an industry standard process when making microwave assemblies, so I don't think that will be a problem. David Nemeth Senior Engineer -----Original Message----- From: mems-talk-bounces@memsnet.org [mailto:mems-talk-bounces@memsnet.org] On Behalf Of Adamson, Steve Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 11:47 AM To: General MEMS discussion Subject: RE: [mems-talk] About Die Bonding David, I have heard that epoxy does not stick to gold very well. If X.P. Zhu uses solder I can understand the gold flash. But this may not be the best backside coating if he uses epoxy. What do you think? Also he is using copper. That is going to have a huge TCE compared to a ceramic. Depending on the temperature excursion and his bonding method he could run into die cracking problems. However I agree with you that Epoxy is probably his best bet.