durusmail: mems-talk: Re: Dielectric Constant Measurement in Polyimide
Re: Dielectric Constant Measurement in Polyimide
1999-04-26
1999-04-26
Re: Dielectric Constant Measurement in Polyimide
Gordon Couger
1999-04-26
If you can use one for a standard frequency determining element
of an oscillator and the test sample in a identical oscillator you
can use a frequency counter to get the dielectric constant.

Two identical circuits should cancel out any noise.

I used something like this for a soil moisture probe that worked well.

Gordon

Gordon Couger gcouger@couger.com
  www.couger.com/gcouger
Stillwater, OK        405 624-2855   GMT -6:00
-----Original Message-----
From: askane@west.raytheon.com 
To: MEMS@ISI.EDU 
Date: Monday, April 26, 1999 1:16 AM
Subject: Dielectric Constant Measurement in Polyimide


>     Hello all,
>
>     I am currently working with 15 micron thick, spin-on polyimide films.
>     The films are hard-baked following patterning. Since these films are
>     for a microwave/RF application (I'm fabricating tranmission lines on
>     the polyimide, substrate is Si), I'm interested in measuring the
>     dielectric constant and dielectric loss tangent for these films,
>     following the curing step. I would like to know the variation in
>     dielectric constant, loss tangent as a function of curing times,
>     temperatures, etc...
>
>     As far as I know the easiest way to do this is to fabricate a
>     capacitor, with the polyimide as the dielectric and perform
>     measurements usings the C-V meter.
>
>     An alternative approach is to fabricate transmission lines, measure
>     S-parameters, and extract the dielectric constant from the data...
>
>     I'd be interested in performing an actual physical measurement, if
>     possible, rather than rely on a functional device/component...
>
>     Any suggestions would be appreciated...
>
>     Thanks,
>
>     Avi Kane
>     Raytheon Systems Company
>     askane@west.raytheon.com
>
>


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