Ahmad: Typical etch chemistries for SiN will attack the PR as well. You are seeing profilometry step heights of <2.4um because you are removing some of the PR as well as the 0.4um SiN layer. You would need to strip the remaining PR and take another profilomtery measurement to get an accurate measure of the SiN/Si step height. (The SiN etch will likely etch the underlying Si as well as the SiN.) Typical etch selectivites for fluorine-based SiN-etch chemistries are in the range of 1-2:1, so you'd expect to remove about 2600-5200A of the PR for a 130% etch. To address your original question about how much PR is required, the 2um PR thickness should be sufficient. For the typical SiN/PR selectivities in the range of 1-2:1 (SiN/PR), the 2um thickness gives you some overhead to maintain your edge profile. At some point though, you may need to include other characteristics of your etch, such as profile angle and residues to determine if your process is acceptable. Robert -----Original Message----- From: mems-talk-bounces+rditizio=tegal.com@memsnet.org [mailto:mems-talk- bounces+rditizio=tegal.com@memsnet.org] On Behalf Of Haider, Ahmad M Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2013 9:15 PM To: Lou Chomas Cc: mems-talk@memsnet.org Subject: [!! SPAM] Re: [mems-talk] Resist thickness for nitride etch Thanks Lou, I got that. The thing is that my Si wafer has a SiN layer on top of which 2 um resist acts a mask. I want to do a plasma(Oxford endpoint RIE) etch exposed portions of SiN (and not Si beneath it). The exposed SiN layer is 400 nm thick and consists of a series of 25 um squares. Overall, if the whole exposed SiN is etched, I should get a step depth of 2.4 um on the profilometer. I etch for 130% of the required etch time to etch all 400 nm of nitride. However, when I measure the step depth on profilometer, it always shows me that the depth is less than 2.4 um. I can't fathom the reason behind it. Could it be because my features are very small? Thanks Ahmad ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lou Chomas"To: "Ahmad M Haider" Sent: Thursday, May 9, 2013 12:00:18 AM Subject: RE: [mems-talk] Resist thickness for nitride etch Hi Ahmad, If the layer under the nitride or resist that you are measuring is also etched (silicon, oxide, etc.) you will measure a step that is the etch through the material plus the etch into the substrate. So, if you etch just resist and then measure the thickness before and after, you will need to then strip the resist and measure the amount of etch into the substrate and subtract it. -Lou > Date: Wed, 8 May 2013 23:33:17 -0400 > From: ahaider3@gatech.edu > To: mems-talk@memsnet.org; lchomas@hotmail.com > Subject: Re: [mems-talk] Resist thickness for nitride etch > > Hi Lou, > > What do you mean by "Be careful to account for any etching into the substrate if you are using a profilometer to measure the thickness." I use the dektak profilometer to measure the thickness in order to verify if the RIE plasma etcher was able to remove all exposed silicon nitride. > > Thanks, > Ahmad > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Lou Chomas" > To: "General MEMS discussion" > Sent: Wednesday, May 8, 2013 5:09:30 PM > Subject: Re: [mems-talk] Resist thickness for nitride etch > > Ahmad, That depends a lot on your process. I would recommend putting some resist down with your pattern on a test wafer and etching for some amount of time. Pick something less than your total etch, but not too short. Measure the thickness of the resist before and after and then you can calculate whether the thickness will be sufficient. Be careful to account for any etching into the substrate if you are using a profilometer to measure the thickness. If your recipe has a lot of oxygen, the rate against the resist will likely be very high. > -Lou > > Date: Wed, 8 May 2013 16:29:49 -0400 > > From: ahaider3@gatech.edu > > To: mems-talk@memsnet.org > > Subject: [mems-talk] Resist thickness for nitride etch > > > > Hi > > > > I am trying to do an anisotropic etch of 400 nm nitride layer in a RIE machine. A portion of the nitride is protected by a resist layer on top of it. Can you tell approximate how much thickness of resist would I need so that the resist doesn't get stripped off during the nitride etch? > > > > Thanks, > > Ahmad > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Hosted by the MEMS and Nanotechnology Exchange, the country's leading > > provider of MEMS and Nanotechnology design and fabrication services. > > Visit us at http://www.mems-exchange.org > > > > Want to advertise to this community? 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