Depends on what is the xtal direction and the environment - usually more towards 40-60A -----Original Message----- From: mems-talk-bounces@memsnet.org [mailto:mems-talk-bounces@memsnet.org] On Behalf Of Kuijpers, P e m Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 8:36 AM To: General MEMS discussion Cc: Brubaker Chad Subject: Re: [mems-talk] glass and coated thin film silicon anodic wafer bonding Hi, Isn't native oxide something about 12A (1.2 nm) thick?? Peter Kuijpers