You're right, of course. Its 10 - 15 A. I slipped a decimal (I was thinking 15 nm). However, an anodic bond may still be possible. 20nm is still not much of an anti diffusion layer (or else a silicon chemical migration layer - i.e. the driving force encourages a silicon from the surface SiO2 to transfer bond, causing a silicon from an SiO2 in the next layer down to switch...) Best Regards, Chad Brubaker EV Group invent * innovate * implement Senior Process Technology Engineer - Direct: +1 (480) 305 2414, Main: +1 (480) 305 2400 Fax: +1 (480) 305 2401 Cell: +1 (602) 321 6071 E-Mail: C.Brubaker@EVGroup.com, Web: www.EVGroup.com -----Original Message----- From: mems-talk-bounces@memsnet.org [mailto:mems-talk-bounces@memsnet.org] On Behalf Of Kuijpers, P e m Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 10:36 PM To: General MEMS discussion Cc: Brubaker Chad Subject: Re: [mems-talk] glass and coated thin film silicon anodic wafer bonding Hi, Isn't native oxide something about 12A (1.2 nm) thick?? Peter Kuijpers mailto:p.e.m.kuijpers@philips.com